Its a huge task, but often one the 12th house couple is uniquely suited for.]. Chiron. Sorry, aja, this is too much information to handle in this space. Its time to clean up the karma between you, according to the position of the Nodes in the composite chart. Now we hate each other and nothing made sense. Also my moon is conjuct to his sun both ways. I have 3 planets in my natal chart in 12th house (mercury,sun,mars) and we have 2 planets,which are identical in my natal(mercury and sun), in the composite chart in 12th house with someone who i talked for 6 months but we never dated.We also have our moon in pisces in 6th house. (excuse my bad English) However, the greatest truths will be revealed through periods of meditation and silence. Hi Dawn. Im from a country in southamerica. Oh the powers of the 12th house. Subconciously I always looked at him for a few seconds like a magnet but did not put any thought to it. But exploring worlds during sex, soul bonding, feeling understood at a deep level, feeling at home in the spirit of the world, higher purpose together, channeling together, these are all things ive felt with my boyfriend and our 12th house energies. The diurnal chart's house cusps will also conjunct progressed and directed planets throughout the year and can mark significant days. But the problem with Neptune and XII house synastric connections, is that illusions seem to possess not your brain, but your flesh and soul. House position isnt as strong as the sign of the Moon. or sth. I dont know why im writing you this because uncounsciously know this relationship was all about love and let go. Neptune is in the 4th, Libra. So beautifully written Dawn. I say empty.. no planet but Asteroid Osiris is 26 Aries. Mine is conjunct with his moon. The composite AC is Scorpio Pluto in 12th (only planet) and Mars in 8th. VERY-VERY SORRY! Weve known each other for a decade??? They might be very sneaky and test people a lot. You may struggle with understanding your emotions and cannot express them in a healthy way. Im sure your midpoint chart is valid if you had it read properly. Mars also squares Mercury, Venus, Pluto and Saturn. Whatever I told you would not have a context. Twelfth house composites can work very well if the people involved understand that they must work together and make a contribution of some kind, even to simply show a good example of what a couple can be. Its weird weird weird . I am sufficiently haunted. Please forgive me, there are much to read and ask, Your inputs will be very much appreciated. I didnt see him for a year after we split up and then ran into him last year out of nowhere. It is commonly thought that the Moon governs emotions and intuition, and it does. I dont have enough information, but the chart emphasis leads me to believe that you are right in your analysis, that the partnership finds its life in the upper houses. We dont really grasp whats in the 12th until we spiritualize it, remove the ego from the planets function. Learn More. sorry Ive made an error : it is not his descendant point, it is his IC point. In other words, that planetary energy might have to do with dealing with their collective, rather than personal, expression. With the composite 12th house in Aries, it may be difficult at times for you to take initiative together when needed, and instead that kicks in when youre moving together subconsciously. Lilith in partner's 12th house may represent emotional outbursts, manipulations and obsessions. I often was a bit too demanding of her when it comes to intimacy and I wonder if this is about me learning to let go. It has been a long, hard road, but rewarding and with the planets in Cancer, SO hard to let go. Required fields are marked *, Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. My 12 is in Leo, along with my Sun, Mercury, Mars and Pluto. Interesting description: it seems like weve followed ourselves around the country for each of our lives and not ever taking the time to learn about each other. So much uncertainty and confusion!! Transit Venus in the Composite 12th House. With 4, 8 and 12 emphasized, youll have to deal with one another in an emotionally honest way, no matter what karma you have to work out together. Im trying to figure it out. This places can even indicate psychic ability. For him, its TOO many of his own issues. This will tell you the energy sounding the ending. The Composite Sun Through the Houses. For whatever reason, you may have a secret relationship . Transit Jupiter in the Composite 12th House. Thank You for Your answer and best regards from Hungary! The person with the most crowded 12th house in history is Ann Margret, a Swedish born actor best known for her iconic Easy Rider bike scene and starring in Viva Los Vegas alongside Elvis Presley. You cant really know how an aspect is going to manifest without looking at the whole chart, but it is true that conjunctions from the 12th house side are very complex. Together we share a Mars 12th. Oh, and we have a 7 year old son. It is composed of the combined midpoints of each person's planets and angles. We have (taurus) mars-venus conjunction on the 12th house and it is so real in our life: we need so strong the deep intimacy and the so close physical and spiritual nearness together, and it is better for us to be alone together for our happiness. There is a lot of love between us, much alignment in our dreams and life goals and a feeling of being soul mates and yet a strange disconnect emotionally that has us often feeling like we are on completely different wavelengths. Love for loves sake wont fly with the 12th house. I felt like someone kicked me out of my home. VERY-VERY SORRY! Saturn in 6th or 12th house in composite chart: This is a strong healing or service oriented relationship and you will work hard together for those purposes. Thank You very much for Your answer and very best regards from Hungary again! But i ran of him, i really dont understand why, it makes me feel so sad. Instant connection, followed by a break up 5 days after, followed by getting back together 1 week later, on and off, on and off formally breaking up in 9 months, and yet professing how we never stopped loving each other two years after that (If you want to find someone else, if you want to marry someone else, I will not stop you, but know this. I apologize for the mistakes, Im French and sometimes it is difficult to express in English . It also governs much, much more, however. Pluto is elevated in the composite chart close to the midheaven in the 9th. 8th and 12th house seem to have haunted me for most of my life , Your email address will not be published. any input would be greatly appreciated!!! Sometimes the ego gets in the way of our path, whether through fear, resistance to growth, resistance to break old habits and personal tendencies, or through a lack of interest in what is wanted of us. Venus/Uranus is difficult in the composite, but it doesnt explain your obsession. Thank you very much. Lilith in : 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th Lilith - astrology meaning Black Moon - Fascination and Denial Lilith is a fictional point - the second empty focal point of . Sadly, our Moon is square to Uranus and I suspect this might be one influence behind her decision to break off all contact with me. So much more needs to be considered. I have a 12th house Capricorn stellium and my husband and I also have a composite 12th house Capricorn stellium. When transit Mercury is in the composite 12th house, you may refrain from expressing thoughts and opinions with one another until youre alone, just the two of you, and no one else around. How ironic! 12th House seems to be the most frightening of all the houses to me, because the primal urge towards each other is such a deep and profoundly spiritual one, that you think, theres no way I could find this depth with another. 3) Angles in the houses & aspects. Hi annaMy feeling is that the word god is loaded, psychologically speaking. So sad! Lets put it this waythe Davison chart is a time/space chart; its reality is anchored in the actual midpoint between the times of birth and places of birth. The Sun person sees in the 11th house person someone, who they can spend pleasant time with. When the transit Sun is in the composite 12th house, you may not give as much attention to the relationship, and instead a light is shone on things that have been hidden to the two of you. Hi HGOf course, these articles cant contain every single exception, and the whole chart has to be taken into consideration. We move from the personal world, giving up our individuality along the way, to become a plaything of the collective unconscious. i dont know, looking at this chart, it has completely different emphasis, from my regular composite. Thank you for this series of articles! 13 . Besides synastry, the twelfth house in a composite chart can also be telling when it comes to karmic relationships. If anything new would happen you would dbe the first one to know! When transit Neptune is in the composite 12th house, you can explore your spiritual connection, and want to make sure that youre intuitively moving in the same direction. Saturn and Uranus both have a lot to say about Aquarius. taurus venus-mars conjunction in Your opinion? By the way loved your above article and thank you for any info you provide : ) x, Thanks for writing this article. He told me that had never happened to him before (referring to how we couldnt control ourselves). When transit Saturn is in the composite 12th house, you may feel that old issues or subconscious issues in the relationship become more of a problem, and need to be worked on, understood, and moved on from. composite moon and saturn are in fifth house. Hes Gemini sun . Good luck. But also to wound each other? Our composite has a sun and north node in the 12 th house. Eventually, we learn that life is not as random as we thought, but full of purpose and meaning. No one could share that kind of information with a person that he/she newly know. The examination of two natal charts shows how people interact with one another==how I affect you, and vice versa. thundered Two sides of the same coin. you are right on target- although I forgot to mention that our trine is in 4th,8th and 12th you are an amazing teacher and your articales on your site have helped me tremendously. His natal Venus in cancer is in my 12house. I herd that the good connections between the 1st house rulers and 7 th rulers are so important an the good saturn aspects also. Im not exactly sure what our future holds, but I do know we are exactly where we are supposed to be XOXO ~ Thank you for the lovely insights!!! We are very romantic together and trust each other. Everywords pounding in me. The composite with the Great Unrequired Impossible love of my life , shows Sun conjunct Neptune and SN , in Scorpio VII . All that positive Saturn synastry for durablilty, moon conjunction, and all those personal planet oppositions make us feel like the same person sometimes. I dont want to lose this relationship too so I would like to help me to find out the karmic lesson. Please advise if we can make it to marriage or our relationship is doomed. However, with so much 12th house a individuals, and then as a couple, can there be something more than We are fated, but we are meant to part. Thank you for this article. Id appreciate any information. Im also interested in anything about twin flame relationships. Thoughts on this combo would be greatly appreciated by me. Through counseling she has discovered that her pattern of deception and maintaining an emotional distance from me stems from childhood. In our composite chart, Mars in 12th house Cancer square MC conjunct Mercury(10th) and the Sun, Venus(9th) & Mars square IC conjunct Saturn and Pluto(3rd). His sun scorpio falls into my fourth house in my natal chart and mine ,cancer, falls into his 8th. Composite The relationship is deep and beautiful and in periods hard for us to be with each other. We need strong, healthy egos to accomplish what weve come to do in this life, but we need to act according to what is wanted of us, not against it. 12th House Meaning. My question is this: Does our Sun/Mercury conjunction in the 12th composite necessarily have to mean we are destined to learn a particular lesson and then part? I am not an expert but this artical ssure proves the writer of it right! venus all in the 12th house. Composite, Davison Chart . Noticed he has moved on and I want to let go and move on too, hoping that the story will not repeat itself again. "Composite Chart, Midpoint- method (2)". P.S. I am so sad because I would have never meet him IF my husband and this man, and his wife would not become friends with him in church, ( I did not go to church for a while so I would not meet them!) Couples with a heavy 12th house/ 6th house polarity have to find a way to put their wisdom to some practical use. I am not certain this person is a fit but yet there are alot of coincidences between us that keeps me boggled on the larger picture. This resonates with me. There are 12 houses of Nessus divided according to the sun signs, such as the rst house belongs to Aries, the second house to Taurus, and so on. This placement suppresses your deep subconscious a lot. How does the 12th manifest when the planet is also conjunct the Asc? Sun conjunct Neptune is a very difficult thing to live with in a composite chart. Im in hawaii for a month, after he broke up with me for the last time, trying to get my strength and sanity back and assure myself that you should not have to TRY so hard for things to work, when these 12th issues come up to work on. The North Node in the 12 th House - Synastry. Your relationship usually starts out as a friendship or as "good friends". We both have natal moon in house 12. I still remember very clearly how I felt 10 years ago when I first met my former boyfriend. I could love this man more than my husband who is a caring man and in a way very similar to this man. so beautiful and so healing especially the last paragraph. Dear Dawn, But, our composite chart is weird. It will revolve around sorrow, secrets, fantasies, hidden desires, emotions, and everything that belongs to our little secrets without physical forms. I was wondering about my composite contacts with some I know who we share 12th house themes with. I herd that the good connections between the 1st house rulers and 7 th rulers are so important an the good saturn aspects also. It isnt bad, its difficult. I cannot be happy with him (I feel happy but it doesnt last any longer) or without him. Thank you. Your article is amazing! Me and my sweet friend have Sun, Venus and Mercury in Cancer in the 12th, trine Neptune in Scorpio in the 5th, sextile Moon in Taurus in the 10th, but square Saturn in Virgo in the 3rd. Dawn, I just found this and it seems to hold some answers about what is going wrong with my marriage of 8 years. Conjunct the composite 1st House cusp, it can be difficult to separate mutual fantasy from reality regarding the identity of the relationship. In the Davison, we have Saturn, Moon, Pluto, and Venus Conjunct in the 12th house. Thank you very much Dawn. And we both natally have same aspects, my mars is in my 12th and his moon is in his 12th also. You explain the ineffable. Comfy date, lots of laughter, he contacted me for a second date. Im sorry, but all of the aspects you mentioned can be used as excuses to pull you back into a relationship that has ended for the other person: in particular, the trines. I have read your response about 12th house and i really do agree with you. Dont worry, Evelyne. Ive seen couples with a heavy 12th house influence utterly befuddled and bedazzled by their lives (which dont go the way their friends lives go). I have gone through a long, long cycle of heartaches and have been able to slowly, heart-wrenchingly get over each and every one, except this guy. As a 8th house sun Virgo 8th Venus Leo I am sure this adds to my sexual nature. Since each of us share a natal 12th house dominion, then repeated in a shared composite strength, what you have said in your 12th house explanations all seem to feel so true. A Venus/Mars conjunction in Taurus can be a beautiful thing. I read once if someones pluto is attached to his own north node that would mean if the person puts anything between himself and god he will loose it, because that is what Pluto teaches. The Moon/Mars (Virgo) sextiles a close Sun/Jupiter (Cancer) conjunction in the 10th, sextiles Uranus (Scorpio) in the 2nd, trines Ceres (Capricorn) in the 4th, and squares Neptune (Sagittarius) in the 3rd all very close aspects. We are both married similar age kids. Your email address will not be published.