ZU VERKAUFEN! The appearance of this NT is similar to the calfskin on your TBS Westminster, but stiffer. Now, before any of this took place, noticed that the opening between the liner flanges seem to be a little narrow for the width of the textblock to fit as it should. And its text block is only equaled by the Westminster, although it uses a different font. Amen Brother! Required fields are marked *. If someone blended a Clarion with a Thompson Chain, the Schuyler is what they would end up with. Norm. This would indicate that the liner is not glued down to the inside of the cover under the bulge. They are very helpful. Allan NASB Holy bible Black Goatskin. Schuyler looks at all the aspects of Bible Binding to produce a Bible that represents the highest quality in binding, materials, craftsmanship & legibility. And I agree with you that if customers would only look past the goatskin cover and focus more on the details we all might end up with a better product. I suspect that someone who is careful wouldnt have any issues with it for many years. Also a fantastic reader. In many cases actually cheaper than bibles that were sold in the 80s. Exclusive photos of these Bibles. KJV Allan Brevier Clarendon Reference Edition - Navy Blue Goatskin (7CNB) . Photos of all the Canterbury. The coloring is actually a bluish silver in daylight, a somewhat translucent effect. Cambridge uses a company in Belarus and for some editions Jongbloed, perhaps others, I dont know where for sure LCBP gets their textblocks, I dont think they are printing their own though I may be wrong. I wonder how easy or safe it is to get any bible in Iran for instance or if that government would even allow a site/blog like this one. Commentary here is simply the tightly focused and measure of physical workmanship. What they have done with the better blue ribbons, classy cover with gold inlay around the inner edge, and binding changes, has made this to be in my opinion, the best bible you can own. There are at the present time, societies wherein one can be imprisoned or even killed for the possession of even a paperback bible. It would be nice to be able to go to a website, select your translation, text layout, paper, type of binding, etc. I am afraid that is a hazard of living in the times we do rather than a general lack of concern by publishers. Something a visitor might mistake for shallowness. And no offense intended, but when it comes to spreading the gospel of GOD, I dont think TBS or LCBP is the only shop in town. The front cover on the Schuyler due to the LARGE hinge radius will not lay as flat against the text block as it will the on TBS, nor as it does as on the Allan Longprimer or Clarendon. Schuyler uses only the finest materials in crafting their Bibles. The Jerusalem Cross is dry stamped onto the front. FOR SALE! This makes it a little difficult to use but it has more entries for less space, so its a good tradeoff. I wish that they were produced here in the US, but that is not a big problem for me. In regards to the comments about the thickness of the textblocks and the paper, the measurement (GSM) from what I understand pertains to weight. Writing In Your Bible: The Schuyler Canterbury and the Case for Traditional Wide Margin Bibles In a market packed with Bibles designed for recording both the thoughts and the artistic expressions inspired by your reading, is there still a place for traditional wide margin editions? SCHUYLER KJV Canterbury Personal Size Bible (Goatskin Black) Like New! Of course all of this makes me wonder how TBS sells their bibles at such a reduced price. I have signed up for the Canterbury email list. I have also purchased 23k gold foil by the booklet, which is also expensive. And here, bestowed with great blessing, we are able to elucidate on the minuteness of bible book details. After a few months I had to get the tape and glue out. I have to say I like it. Its worth contacting them. The grain of the leather is simply gorgeous. Schuyler has answered in two ways. The references and notes make the Schuyler KJV Reference Bible a great study Bible by giving you tools to define words and compare Scripture with Scripture. I could conceivable make gizmo nozzle attachment to inject an adhesive in that area from the end, but just not that energetic for those things anymore!, and it may not pan out that well even with simulated mockup in card paper for trial runs. I love those choices. There are four luxurious ribbons in four colors: green, purple, brown, and gold. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Schuyler KJV Canterbury Forest Green Calfskin Bible (Like New) at the best online prices at eBay! without subheadings, references, etc., but at the same time remains practical for Bible study. There are 32 blank pages in the back for notes. It has about a medium boldness. Its like an Allan without the yapp, and also with the same Schuyler binding style. In Saudi Arabia any bibles from those entering the country are confiscated. His gift of eternal life and adoption was totally of His mercy and grace. $349.99 + $9.95 shipping . Thanks for this review. Ive heard good things about their customer service and I know their goal is the highest quality possible. FOR SALE! And since I consider myself more of a textblock and paper guy Im glad you touched on the opacity issue between the Schuyler and the TBS, which I believe you noted no noticeable difference or improvement in ghosting? All turned out well with this reconstructive, aesthetic surgery. Funny thing is; I found a use for all but the Longprimer 63. And, from what I understand a minimum print run of books/bibles is somewhere between 500 1000 copies. There are 8 pages of very colorful maps. The Slate is an interesting color. There is a unique flow to the text. . Its most likely 1769. NEW Allan 43P Longprimer Thinline KJV Ref Bible Purple Highland Goatskin Bible (#144290826871) See all feedback. Your review is the only one Ive found that lists the writing paper as a feature. Paragraph format with bolder verse numbers would have been nice, but thats a matter of the layout from TBS and their target audience. I appreciate the review and all the pictures. To each of us as hath been given light or delusion. It might be a while before they know for sure. Received my replacement Schuyler KJV in black goatskin. It is great for reading but not so great for preaching. Yet, history is replete with countless examples where his protection did not extend to the saving of the physical lives of His faithful, even those that sang praises of joy as their lives were extinguished in the most horrible manners and remained steadfast to their final breath. I think that most printing is indeed done overseas, this is due to the lamentable cost of labor and material here in the United States of America probably more than for any other reason. ESV Schuyler Quentel Goatskin Bible. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Rare OOP Schuyler Reference KJV dark purple at the best online prices at eBay! Used what I thought was a suitable glue and firmly pressed down the flanges against the textblock and let it setup. They are 3/8 wide and plenty long enough to be useable. The TBS because of the paste off method is more sloppy in the cover hinge area due to the fact that the end pages will lift away some from the cover hinge areas. VENDRE! Well, they are very nice and for $19 each with excellent expedited shipping rates, am not sending them back. The primary purpose of translating is to communicate the meaning of a given text or verbal expression of a source language into a text or verbal expression of a receptor language. What I Like High quality book block printed by Jongbloed Limp, leather-lined goatskin binding Good 32 gsm paper What I Don't Like Reference-optimized setting with especially narrow columns (but see above for my qualifications) The Photos: BlueDouble ColumnGoatskinKJVSchuyler Sent the bible back to EVB today and requested a replacement with the black cover as a result of yesterdays telephone conversation. It doesnt have footnotes. The only thing Im curious about is their high shipping rates when an order exceeds the $200 dollar level because in my case all shipments (expedited service) have been by USPS Priority Mail which is a flat rate with a quite high weight allowance. This is the first comment I have ever made but I read the reviews on your site all the time. It has notes in the margin. Typically edge-lined leather will outlast past-down vinyl liners. Critically comparing the ghosting in the same areas of both with the Schuyler, I can see absolutely no empirical difference with my eyeball. I also purchased a fairly large sized Greek/ English NT second hand that had been previously rebound by http://www.AceBookbinding.com . The only thing that caused hesitation, as I liked the Navy and Mahogany appearances, was the contrasting black liner. Over two hundred thousand cross-references with good size, clear, readable print in an attractive new setting. I love the cream tone. Yes, we do have so much to be thankful for and for those that publish the Word of God. It is most prominently shown in a picture of the red cover bible (IMG_2356.jpg). Integrity of work does matter. Both use the very same text block. The cover bends over your hand while holding it. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. Schuyler Bibles are printed and bound in the Netherlands by Royal Jongbloed, one of the finest book binderies in Europe. Aesthetics aside, with daily use do you think the Schyuler version of this will last for a significantly longer time than the TBS calfskin? Indexes make maps much more usable and I think premium Bible should especially have them. The Mahogany leather of the Schuyler is more of a tan color. Take for instance if you were to purchase a TBS Westminster, but you decided you wanted to have it bound in Goatskin or even a different color binding, your purchase price and the costs of the rebind will exceed the costs of a Schuyler, and happy hunting finding someone to stitch the perimeter of the binding for you. Great size as well. Suffice to say, my batting average is not doing well lately! I have nothing but the highest praise for them in my two contacts via telephone. Picture Information. This contains the end of chapter 38 and the first full chapter that starts on that page is chapter 39. The paper is 32 gsm and has a slight cream tone. Definitions are keyed with asterisks. The red art dye with the gold gild looks very good, better than the former example in blue under silver. Norm, i will like to purchase 200 copies of KJV bible bonded leather from your store, let me know the total cost with freight to NIGERIA, looking forward to your reply, I do not have a store to sell Bibles. Its the same paper as the TBS. The Schuyler measures .129-.130 thick per 100 sheets (200 pages) versus .132 similarly for the TBS. Your email address will not be published. Like all chapter summaries in KJVs you have to be careful with the contents (some place the Church in the OT, etc.). The Treveris is a unique typesetting from Schuyler that seeks to give the Bible reader a format that is free of human commentary, i.e. I have decided to hold off on any purchase of a high end bible until they finalize and release a few more details on that one. It just may be for a small number of His faithful saints, His elect, that His wrath has not fully consummated this country, so far. My only complaint is there is no index to maps. Free shipping. Thank you. 2. What do you think of the font comparison? Just how much larger in practice is it than the KJV Reference? Ive been in various fields of manufacturing for slightly over forty years, so these types of things am geared to notice, looking beyond the glitter of goatskin covers, etc. NIV - SCHUYLER Quentel Imperial Blue Goatskin - $189.12. I havent decided yet. Things I Buy. John, All three compare identical with each other. KJV Giant Print Center-Column Reference Bible - Premier Collection - Brown Goatskin Leather $189.99 $108.50. I know the TBS one has thin writing paper, but I want to be sure about the Schuyler. $167.50. Sponsored. I agree with you on the soft covers, which do not work very well on larger a sized bible, although the Goatskin on the Schuyler is heavier/thicker than the Calfskin on the LCBP. Thank you for writing this review. This looks like a truly beautiful bible! KJV, Spirit-Filled Life Bible, Third Edition, Hardcover, Red Letter, Comfort Print: Kingdom Equipping Through the Power of the Word $27.49 (224) In Stock. It has sections headings, references in the footer, and red chapter and verse numbers (that could change, but thats what the current layout is showing). Are you certain that it will be slightly smaller than the Quentel? It is very soft and the grain is pronounced. I originally bought most of these bibles with the intention of finding the ones that suit me best and selling or giving away the ones that dont. 100% Satisfaction ~ Pre-Owned C $214.37 Buy It Now +C $25.43 shipping estimate from United States Most Bibles would not include chapter 38 at the top of the page. The SCHUYLER KJV is now in stock. KJV Schuyler Canterbury Holy Bible Black Goatskin Full Yapp New (Other) C $680.56 Top Rated Seller or Best Offer from United States Sponsored THE NEW PILGRIM BIBLE, KJV By E. Schuyler English & Marion Bishop Bower ~ Quick Free Delivery in 2-14 days. Other than for note taking, it can be the be all bible. Maybe a 50-50 line type of appearance. Glad to see I am not the only one. Unfortunately its not edge-lined goatskin, but that can be fixed . The Schuyler Treveris, named for the British printer Peter Treveris from the 1400-1500's, is a new Bible that was designed primarily to be a reader. I just received a 2nd generation Schuyler KJV. By tomorrow I will have either decided to keep it, and chalk it up as a sign of the times, or will call EVB to state its condition and see if they consider this sloppy ribbon placement unacceptable. Can you tell me if there is any difference between this and the schuyler westminster reference other than the obvious like the goatskin or quality of the ribbons. Everything is in good order on the bottom side alignment of the liner/flange cutout and the attachment of the cover liner to textblock is well effected. To cut to the quik, decided to try and gently lift the edge of the free endpaper if it was agreeable! NKJV Single Column Reference Bible in Blue Genuine Leather by Randy A Brown | Jul 8, 2022 | 1 . In today's video, we take look at an out of print KJV Schuyler Reference BiblePickup a TBS Westminster here - https://evangelicalbible.com/product-category/t. So I decided to try some of the present high end offerings. Received my Schuyler KJV today in Navy Blue. Schuyler Personal Size Quentel CSB, Black Goatskin Bible, Zipper Edition - PREORDER. The cover flanges are pretty uniform and the excellent stitching is well within the flange borders. Click to . Perhaps i wrote something that has offended someone, I hope not. It actually has a range of colors that mix to create a lot of visual texture. 5. Hi Randy, No, they are not as well made as was common 50-80 years ago, but we must remember only the very well made have survived, there was some rather shoddy material and labor used those many years ago as well. It doesnt have note pages or goatskin, but it still has great binding, lies flat, and has the best readability for preaching in my opinion. http://thefoolishgalatian.wordpress.com/2010/05/06/interview-with-paul-cline-of-evangelicalbible-com/. Schuyler has produced the Westminster with all the bells and whistles you would expect in a premium edition goatskin leather, edge-lined, stitched, art-gilt edges, and 4 thick ribbons. Shop Now. However this TBS bible is much better than the Windsor or Concord I have from them. With that said, how would you compare the color Antique Mahogany with the Brown on the Allan Longprimer? Ive been tempted to get the hardcover. Let me know if youre interested. Features: - Calfskin Leather cover - 200,000+ Cross references - Black text throughout - Quality sewn binding - 4 Ribbon Markers (2 Red, 2 Black) - Quality Bible paper Additional Contents: - Gift presentation page I agree with you about the overall size of the Westminster, although I certainly wouldnt mind if TBS and Schuyler eventually released a large print edition, but this is probably just wishful thinking on my part. !, I am disappointed, but somewhat numb to it all, so no big deal, but feel it all merits mentioning. I agree with their positions which I think are well reasoned and supported. I think that sound will go away with use. 3. These cookies do not store any personal information. There are two essential elements in every language: form (whether oral or written) which includes the phonological, grammatical, and lexical systems . I hope none of you all take any of my comments as meaning anything other than that. Rated 5 out of 5. by Rick . I have a Clarion, Concord, Schuyler, Allan wide margin, longprimer 52, 53, and 63. Wish I could post pictures. The big issue is the ribbons. In conclusion, dont think anything more can be added to my Schuyler KJV experience. Free delivery for many products. Perhaps, it is just vanity, but I really like the Westminster text block, one major reason is that it is not self-pronouncing, and appreciate a nice cover and the edge lined construction. The brown leather of my Schuyler is the most unique shade I have ever had, yet it is elegant and thick. It will most likely be discontinued. Thank you Randy, and I greatly appreciate your reviews! . It's available in goatskin in several colors. Schuyler KJV Canterbury - Overview. This website uses cookies to improve your experience. I dont know how this thread beginning with an outstanding review by Randy, has turned into a discussion of the merits of various publishers and marketers of Gods Word. THIS is a DEAL BREAKER I think for me. Now, concerning the whole quality issue of today versus yesteryear, in reality how many companies at present still manufacture their own products in house? While there are many nice features on the current crop, I also notice a lack of attention in some aspects of workmanship. This is not meant to be harsh, but realistic and candid. I do like the Longprimer, but I find the notes and references in this one to be more useful and the sharp text is amazing even for the references and notes indicators. Aniline Calfskin reveals the life of the animal in the natural grain, exhibiting pores, [] 4. To my knowledge there has been at least 2 runs of the Westminster textblock: 3M/05/12 and 10.5M/01/13 (this one) from examples that I own. And, I understand that LCBP is a ministry, but in some cases TBS bibles are actually cheaper than the bibles from LCBP. They are able to produce relatively good quality bibles at a good price because there are people like me who send them money every month as a tithe. Not real sure of who you are referring to specifically, but I have gone back and reread what I had written and I did not see anything specific which would give anybody the idea that I was upset. From my standpoint, Id say stay with the TBS Westminster. Like you, I had also noticed the light impression of the imprinting on the outside of the bible, the shortness of the tail bands, and the ribbon markers could certainly do with some repositioning. Calfskin leather binding. It doesnt get any better than the Clarion for longterm reading. I think its great someone can buy three quality bibles for the price of a Schuyler, but with all due respect I cant help but question the comparison. VENDRE! It is to my mind almost incomprehensible that anyone could do this careless of a job in ribbon placement. All of the businesses and ministries we have been discussing are either directly or indirectly doing the Lords work and deserve our respect. This is a beautiful bible. I think that if I had problems as John described that the return of the bible would be the proper action. EVBs customer service is outstandingly polite and courteous. The goatskin cover is of the highest quality. Great review! Thank you Trying to decide if its worth it to make the investment. There have been collections and burnings of New Testaments in Israel. Beautiful bible, you won't believe how great 125801670108 The text is presented in verse-by-verse format. There is another Bible coming out that I might recommend in place of the KJV Quentel for your purposes. If they made a Quentel with 10 point font instead of 11 it seems like that 10% smaller form factor would move it to the top of my list. My uses are as followedCambridge Concord- carrying to church[sometimes private reading. References are keyed to the text with letters. All of that is a long way of bringing me to my question. Evangelical bible did cover it with a plate that has my name on it. The format of the text is beautiful. Allan Oxford wide margin- obviously for writing. The bibles and the businesses that produce and market them are real assets to the Christian community at large and deserve at least prayer, and in the case of the ministries, support as the Lord leads individuals to give. But thats just me being picky. Thats an impressive list and to place the 2nd ed. I am grateful for the bibles and related publications being produced today. Im glad you like it! Noticed this on the navy blue sample, but did not realize its implications at the time, just what a poor fit. Schuyler Canterbury KJV, Black Goatskin Bible Rated 4.89 out of 5 $ 205.00 Purchase Details Schuyler Canterbury KJV, Imperial Blue Goatskin Bible Rated 4.90 out of 5 $ 205.00 I believe the nation is experiencing the wrath of a righteous God, as was many times with the chosen nation of Israel, for their idolatries (of which Americas cup is full; the love of money perhaps foremost amongst many idols) and the Satanic blood sacrifice of the most helpless of life in over 53 million abortions of convenience. Sorry for the long question but I want to ask a couple of people that have actually handled both options. If the flange is not glued down as well as stitched, I saw a possibility with use that it may lift after the cover had endured a measure of movement or flexing? I do this not out of a sense of kindness, though that is there, but out of a sense of Christian Duty after prayerful consideration. With kind thoughts, Thanks for sharing Christopher. Designed by Elegant Themes | Powered by WordPress. Or the persecution, torture, and murder of Christians in Russia after the 1917 revolution. I have adjusted pretty well to the TBS Westminister, and can use it while seated now. Here is the personal size version of this Bible. It is time to leave for evening services so Ill cut this short and wish Gods blessings on all of us. The goatskin seems flawless in its general pattern. Next I wanted to see dimensionally just how much the left portion of the front cover is raised above the textblock when bible is laying down flat. Im also waiting on the Canterbury. Kind Regards to all brothers and sisters in Christ, Alec, John, Here are the issues that I had with my particular sample, one of which I feel is quite egregious for a bible line promoting the status of its workmanship and quality: 1. Side by side, even new, the 2nd generation opens better too. Your technical observations are most appreciated. Thanks for the help. Page Size: 6.14 x 9.1 x 1.1 (156 mm x 231 mm x 29 mm) 9 mm yapp. For this reason I usually like the slightly stiffer covers like the calf-split Concord, the calf-skin Clarion, and the TBS Westminster for holding in one hand to read. When hand holding with the spine or tailband horizontal and you tilt or rotate the spine upwards toward a ~45 degree angle, either left or right side, you can feel a wobbleness (sic?). I am also thankful to all of the others who have made comments on this blog. Its perfect for the pulpit, but I do prefer carrying the KJV Reference or Concord. Both LCBP and TBS are ministries. Hopefully, but not expectantly, whoever handles this aspect of Schuylers bindery, will correct this area of concern that I worked on and will do something about the egregious characteristics of the front joint that causes it to lift so much from the text block before it finally settles against it around 2.5 inches to the right of the joint. I own every goatskin kjv available and the Concord is my least favoritr of them all. It shows her standard wear folded pages, scratched gilting, etc., but the liner and cover are as good as new. I support LCBP, and TBS because I am sympathetic with their ministries. Concluded this was from the flexure while hand holding due to the very light embossing of this text. All this was carried out in a skilled and meticulous manner with what was on hand, although my hands-on experience is not of the book binding trade. I do know though that regardless of what the source of our bibles, that relative to the quality of other kinds of products, their quality is quite good. Next noticed the gold imprinting of Bible in Holy Bible on the front cover was getting a crazed effect of small cracks in the text characters surface. I dont want to be a curmudgeon that finds no good thing, but their are definite problems out there for almost every industry. Im pretty sure they would replace it for you. I have dealt with EVB and can truly say that they are a fine company, I have purchased bibles from them, and have experienced nothing but top notch service and prices. Im sure theyll have to know by the end of the year in order to get everything ready for publication next year. The #1 Source for King James Version Bibles "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." - John 1:1. You really cant beat Schuyler 2nd generation with any bible out there. I may have to go with your idea and switch to a text only search in order to get the font size and bible size that I am looking for. Full Yapp Natural Grain Black Pearl Calfskin Cover with Navy Calfskin Lining Same Pagination as the Quentel CSB (all page numbers and format will be identical) 8.5 point Milo font Page size: 4.7 x 7.1 x 1.1 (120 mm x 180 mm x 28 mm) Line Matching 28 GSM Indopaque Paper 2 Navy Ribbons Art-Gilt Edging (blue under silver) Gilt Line . As a result, this small area of liner material is pulled away from being secured to the inside of the cover. It has verse by verse in double columns and Psalms set to stanzas in a single column. Having said this I am aware of others who disagree. Natural Grain Black Goatskin Cover with Red full Calfskin Leather Lining. Or even a portion of the bible in the poorest quality print on wrinkled, aged newsprint! The latter is according to their website; as for that reason I confine my order not to exceed the $200 mark. Home Shop Schuyler Personal Size Canterbury KJV, Firebrick Red Goatskin Bible, Zipper Edition Schuyler Personal Size Canterbury KJV, Firebrick Red Goatskin Bible, Zipper Edition Rated 5.00 out of 5 based on 4 customer ratings ( 4 customer reviews) $ 200.00 In stock Add to cart ADD IMPRINTING Please allow 1-2 extra days for imprinting Click Here I hold the Bible the same way you do. And this was the ONLY color advertized on another website (not EB just to clarify) and I get delivered the COLORED glossy hardbacks. Randy on the other hand, to the best of my knowledge, has always been respectful of both publishers and translations. I was not required to give a positive review only an honest review. FEATURES 11pt Milo typeface 6.1" x 9.1" trim size . Unfortunately, the non-discriminating public, wont get past the wow of the beautiful goat skin cover and seems obvious to me the manufacturers understand this well. Includes concordance and maps. It is a complex many faceted problem including unions, government regulation, difficulty finding competent people and many other things. The rich black cover is beautiful. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. John, The bible is beautiful and a wonderful size. NASB (New American Standard Bible) New American Standard Bible 2020 (NASB) It is distressing to me to see how the direction of our society has taken effects this and other industries but I dont know what the solutions are. and place your order, then after a few weeks find your new bible waiting inside your mailbox. For my own use however I think I will stick to the TBS Westminister version. The Long Primer is definitely a more chocolate brown color. The buttero calfskin isnt as floppy, but I like it better than Allan gostskin. If I have done anything to offend any one of you all or if my comments have even made someone uncomfortable, please forgive me. I have the first generation as well. The spine has HOLY BIBLE, KING JAMES VERSION, and the Schuyler logo printed in silver. I seen elsewhere your recommendation of a 4 book combination and do concur. That would be an amazing Bible. Not that it really means anything, but suspect that the TBS will not prove as durable in its end page hinges? They cannot fathom nor admit that such an idyllic conception as they envision it, is an utter impossibility in this countrys present and declining moral state (rush to wickedness) and certainly the recompense of their ways even considering from a totally secular viewpoint. I would recommend the examination of Allans and LCBPs craftsmanship as examples to study and emulate. The goatskin looks extraordinary from the pictures. Am not forgetful of the immeasurable worth of His Word. Except His ways are not our ways and in Him is there no unrighteousness and all things are for His pleasure and purpose. A beautifully crafted New King James Bible in a clear single-column format for an exceptional Bible reading experience. Just a thought. Schuyler KJV Canterbury Bible. Nevertheless, can one imagine the tears of joy and excitement if what we have today in the form of the Old and New Testaments, in the cheapest paperback conceivable, was available to the common saints and martyrs from the time of the first church to that of the printing press and afterwards!!
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